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This page is to share conversations which developed after our initial research. Thank you to those whom trusted us and shared their thoughts and experiences here. We include storied experiences shared with wonderful courageous people, like you and me. Holding your center, living out your central values in the current pandemic of distress may be more profound to your health and wellbeing than others may immediately realize. Prof. Jem Bendell's community in Deep Adaptation evidenced spirituality as lived and embodied in folks crucial practices, and as our women said, 'Look I am Alive'. 'Look, the world is Alive'
Carole Spice shares her life, spirituality and her recent work in grief walking https://youtu.be/ARl_0TDDZ4Q
Clinical Psychologist Dr Paris Williams, shares wise words, generous spiritual care, and experience with rethinking madness::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg9_kgnWMu0&feature=youtu.be
Building space for spiritual conversations are significant in enabling us in 'Coming of age'? Consider Stephen Jenkinson work on rethinking what it is to be here, our life and therefore our death-see https://youtu.be/d2IhwsTtXzA)
Visit you tube for (search) Tauranga Moana Women For Peace for insight around spiritual actions and political advocacy with Joy and Mary Rose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-dtpapVoBc&authuser=0
We feature a powerful transcript (below) by Maria , cherished peace advocate. Maria's reflection are on peace and our relationship to what we see as our right to food, Peace for All, (posted below)-
Beyond this site, with personal and professional stories, we do examine societal spirituality , and its structural barriers. For example you can visit Youtube-search out Dr Ingrid Huygen lecture where her work on emotional spiritual intelligence in Pakeha response to the Treaty (University of Waikato, 2016) which enriched my insights into hearing deeply, when truths on both sides of a story which are embedded in pain.
Nga mihi manaakitanga kia koutou.
Merrill and the Creative team-
To share your thoughts e mail for time to talk Merwolh@gmail.com- Do find our blog Spirit-Aotearoa
Missing Peace-Peace for all (Maria)
For some time now I've been pondering, learning, discussing with friends and family the meaning of rights and who deserves to be entitled to what. It hit me that when we discriminate against one sector or species, the concept opens the door for further discrimination against others. If rights are only for the human species, that discrimination introduces an injustice towards a number of sentient beings infinitely larger than the number of humans beings, causing justice to be incomplete and contradictory. Unjust justice?
To deal with the animal rights question seems to me urgent and necessary if we are to reformulate a series of relationships between power and powerlessness, have vs have nots, war vs peace. Advancing the knowledge and legislation that considers animals as worthy of rights is an urgent task because it could unlock other unresolved areas that today are causing to question the value of democracy as a system of government for example.
The recognition of animals as sentient being is a tool for progress that will help solving other forms of discrimination such as racism, child abuse, human trafficking and the like, issues that delay access to better standards of living, better thinking and peace in our community.Advancing animal rights is essential to confirm democratic values. Intolerance in practically all areas of human activity has roots in the injustice par excellence that we live under because we consider criminal to raise humans for consumption or slavery while it's legal to do the same to animals. The origin of all injustice stems from this contradiction.
We have a body capable of suffering pain, we wish to live and relate to others. So do animals. It cannot be ignored that the same basic needs apply to other sentient beings. To deprive them of life and dignity cannot be legal within a justice system based on reason. The example of the infamous Awassi Express ship that carries thousands of the best New Zealand cattle to destinations such as China and the Middle East can only be compared to the slave ships of the past. Like the slave ships, delivering as many 'units' alive is the captain's goal. Still, not all will survive the journey. On arrival they will be in countries that have little or no welfare legislation. Eventually they will be slaughtered by methods that may be illegal in this country. And yet, the shipments are legal and take place several times a year. The last one left from Napier with 5,300 pregnant cows. In spite of the secrecy there is recent footage captured by Australian activists. It's graphic and comes with a warning.
http://safe.org.nz/live-export-death-ships. Albert Schweitzer said “We must fight against the spirit of unconscious cruelty with which we treat animals. Animals suffer as much as we do. True humanity does not allow us to impose such sufferings on them. It is our duty to make the whole world recognise it. Until we extend our circle of compassion to all living things, humanity will not find peace”.
I'm not touching on the multiple other relationships for example between animals and enviromental crises, better understood now that climate concerns, loss of indigenous fauna, flora, dirty waterways and more are daily news. Or animals and the economy especially in a country such as ours, so dependent on primary industries and so vulnerable when things go wrong. Again, mycoplasma bovis is news headlines.
As a woman for peace I'm increasingly clear about the relationship between war and commodifying and consuming animals for food, a relationship that is undeniable and has been understood from very early on. As soon as humans began to enslave (“domesticate”) animals and use them for food, the relations between humans and other humans underwent a profound transition. The Aryan Sanskrit word for War, gavyaa, means literally “the desire for more cattle” or “looking for other people’s cattle to steal,” or “cattle raiding.” Cattle raiding was tantamount to a declaration of war.
More peas for more peace?
Maria Cristina Sagarzazu
This page is to share conversations which developed after our initial research. Thank you to those whom trusted us and shared their thoughts and experiences here. We include storied experiences shared with wonderful courageous people, like you and me. Holding your center, living out your central values in the current pandemic of distress may be more profound to your health and wellbeing than others may immediately realize. Prof. Jem Bendell's community in Deep Adaptation evidenced spirituality as lived and embodied in folks crucial practices, and as our women said, 'Look I am Alive'. 'Look, the world is Alive'
Carole Spice shares her life, spirituality and her recent work in grief walking https://youtu.be/ARl_0TDDZ4Q
Clinical Psychologist Dr Paris Williams, shares wise words, generous spiritual care, and experience with rethinking madness::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg9_kgnWMu0&feature=youtu.be
Building space for spiritual conversations are significant in enabling us in 'Coming of age'? Consider Stephen Jenkinson work on rethinking what it is to be here, our life and therefore our death-see https://youtu.be/d2IhwsTtXzA)
Visit you tube for (search) Tauranga Moana Women For Peace for insight around spiritual actions and political advocacy with Joy and Mary Rose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-dtpapVoBc&authuser=0
We feature a powerful transcript (below) by Maria , cherished peace advocate. Maria's reflection are on peace and our relationship to what we see as our right to food, Peace for All, (posted below)-
Beyond this site, with personal and professional stories, we do examine societal spirituality , and its structural barriers. For example you can visit Youtube-search out Dr Ingrid Huygen lecture where her work on emotional spiritual intelligence in Pakeha response to the Treaty (University of Waikato, 2016) which enriched my insights into hearing deeply, when truths on both sides of a story which are embedded in pain.
Nga mihi manaakitanga kia koutou.
Merrill and the Creative team-
To share your thoughts e mail for time to talk Merwolh@gmail.com- Do find our blog Spirit-Aotearoa
Missing Peace-Peace for all (Maria)
For some time now I've been pondering, learning, discussing with friends and family the meaning of rights and who deserves to be entitled to what. It hit me that when we discriminate against one sector or species, the concept opens the door for further discrimination against others. If rights are only for the human species, that discrimination introduces an injustice towards a number of sentient beings infinitely larger than the number of humans beings, causing justice to be incomplete and contradictory. Unjust justice?
To deal with the animal rights question seems to me urgent and necessary if we are to reformulate a series of relationships between power and powerlessness, have vs have nots, war vs peace. Advancing the knowledge and legislation that considers animals as worthy of rights is an urgent task because it could unlock other unresolved areas that today are causing to question the value of democracy as a system of government for example.
The recognition of animals as sentient being is a tool for progress that will help solving other forms of discrimination such as racism, child abuse, human trafficking and the like, issues that delay access to better standards of living, better thinking and peace in our community.Advancing animal rights is essential to confirm democratic values. Intolerance in practically all areas of human activity has roots in the injustice par excellence that we live under because we consider criminal to raise humans for consumption or slavery while it's legal to do the same to animals. The origin of all injustice stems from this contradiction.
We have a body capable of suffering pain, we wish to live and relate to others. So do animals. It cannot be ignored that the same basic needs apply to other sentient beings. To deprive them of life and dignity cannot be legal within a justice system based on reason. The example of the infamous Awassi Express ship that carries thousands of the best New Zealand cattle to destinations such as China and the Middle East can only be compared to the slave ships of the past. Like the slave ships, delivering as many 'units' alive is the captain's goal. Still, not all will survive the journey. On arrival they will be in countries that have little or no welfare legislation. Eventually they will be slaughtered by methods that may be illegal in this country. And yet, the shipments are legal and take place several times a year. The last one left from Napier with 5,300 pregnant cows. In spite of the secrecy there is recent footage captured by Australian activists. It's graphic and comes with a warning.
http://safe.org.nz/live-export-death-ships. Albert Schweitzer said “We must fight against the spirit of unconscious cruelty with which we treat animals. Animals suffer as much as we do. True humanity does not allow us to impose such sufferings on them. It is our duty to make the whole world recognise it. Until we extend our circle of compassion to all living things, humanity will not find peace”.
I'm not touching on the multiple other relationships for example between animals and enviromental crises, better understood now that climate concerns, loss of indigenous fauna, flora, dirty waterways and more are daily news. Or animals and the economy especially in a country such as ours, so dependent on primary industries and so vulnerable when things go wrong. Again, mycoplasma bovis is news headlines.
As a woman for peace I'm increasingly clear about the relationship between war and commodifying and consuming animals for food, a relationship that is undeniable and has been understood from very early on. As soon as humans began to enslave (“domesticate”) animals and use them for food, the relations between humans and other humans underwent a profound transition. The Aryan Sanskrit word for War, gavyaa, means literally “the desire for more cattle” or “looking for other people’s cattle to steal,” or “cattle raiding.” Cattle raiding was tantamount to a declaration of war.
More peas for more peace?
Maria Cristina Sagarzazu
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